CSKA Moscow face an anxious wait to learn if they will be thrown out of the UEFA Champions League and banned from future competitions because of positive drugs tests for two of their players following a match against Manchester United.

Russian defenders Alexei Berezutsky and Sergei Ignashevich have been provisionally suspended from all games after positive doping tests for a banned stimulant.

CSKA progressed into the competition's next round on Tuesday night as they won in Besiktas and Manchester United beat Wolfsburg.

The random tests were carried out following the Champions League clash with Manchester United on 3rd November which ended in a 3-3 draw.

Uefa's disciplinary committee will hear the case on 17th December but under the European body's regulations, if more than one player tests positive for banned drugs action can be taken against the team.

Part of Article 12 of Uefa's disciplinary regulations states: "If more than one player from the same team is charged with a doping offence in relation to a prohibited substance or methods the team in question may be disqualified from the competition in progress and/or future competitions."

The Russian club have defended the players and claim it was down to a "clerical error".

CSKA claimed that both players had been given Sudafed while battling colds on international duty, but CSKA's medical staff had failed to include the medication on a list handed to Uefa following the clash with United.

"The problem is that during the doping control procedures a clerical error was made by employees within our medical staff," said the statement on www.pfc-cska.com.

"For the players and for the club this news was truly shocking.

"Unfortunately, we do not yet fully understand all the circumstances of the case, but we have nothing to hide, and we believe our fans should be made aware of that.

"This situation has arisen in connection with the treatment of our players from a severe cold during their time with the national team, and not in any way with doping, which is also known by the relevant bodies within UEFA."

Source: skysports.com

I wonder if they do get a ban, which they won't know until the day before the draw, whether the other teams in our group will then get promoted? That could mean Wolfsburg qualify for the CL and Besiktas to the Europa league?

1 player would probably mean a player ban, but 2....?

What hard luck this lads having, after already having a injury ridden career he limped of against villa on saturday after damaging his leg and will under a scan today with the results expected tommorow to see the full damage.

Its a pity always liked him as a player and a proffesional.

I took a young nephew to Old Trafford yesterday for the 'Grounds & Museum Tour'.
He knew very little about the history of the club, so I thought it was time he learned a thing or two. We are far more than repetitive Cup Winners.
The Tour was very well thought out and the Tour Guide was excellent, as usual. Young nephew couldn't believe the Trophy Rooms, I think he expected a cabinet (LOL) and he was really taken when confronted with the full story of 6th. Feb. 1958. Sadly he'd known nothing about it whatsoever.

Well, he really enjoyed the overall experience and I'm sure he came away with a different point of view. He now knows a club gains respect through its history rather than its present league position and that winning football matches only add to that respect if continued over many, many decades.

Anyway, to the point of my post.
After the Tour he wanted to visit The Red Cafe .... "I'm starvin' "
Now as you know the cafe is situated inside Old Trafford itself.
Sitting down to order, my nephew went for the 'Kids' menu which advertises dishes named after our players, Giggs, Neville, Rio, Rooney etc..

Am I being petty here ?
They were still selling 2 dishes named after players no longer with us.
Ronaldo ? Yes - maybe I can understand that one, but WTF :~ Tevez, No F***IN' WAY.
I wanted to take it up with someone but the waitresses were rushed off their feet.
(They had been quite and had let two waitresses go home. Sods Law, they then got busy).

I have taken our kids on that tour on several occasions and have always enjoyed it.
This time however, a little thing like the 'Kids Menu' spoilt it for me. I was pissed for the rest of the afternoon.

Pretty childish of me, or what ?

Tell us what movie you liked best of all time, for me scarface is legendary

Quote:SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND

Any of you making any this year, i havent decided yet what to do, go off the drink till paddys day will be one